The hatnote here can point to the page for that book. And, the page at Incest (disambiguation) is not needed because it has only one other link in it - to the book by Anais Nin. Besides, no-one who is looking for the topic of inbreeding will put incest into the search box, they're not ambiguously similar. Inbreeding is addressed in the article with a summary-style section listed in the table of content - and that section has a main article top-link. George ( talk) 07:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC) I agree the repetition is not needed, but then again, the whole disambuation hatnote is not needed. There is no need to repeat that it is usually taboo/illegal in the disambiguation sentence. The American Heritage Dictionary provides the best definition which is: 'Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom.' While the word 'marriage' is used, the definition basically says if you can't marry, then it is incest when the relations occur, in or out of marriage. Second, define ' closely related.' You cannot without invoking either law or social custom. Dex Stewart ( talk) 21:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC) First, it says illegal or social taboo, not just illegal. I will not change it for now, but I really think it should be changed. It may say that marriage between the two is illegal, or it may say in another definition that intercourse itself is illegal, but the primary definitions support my arguments. In all three dictionaries the primary definition of the word does not imply illegality. I googled the word dictionary, took the first three results and typed in 'incest'. I then thought that wikipedia is based on sources, so I decided to try and find some. I disagree with this, because I still believe that the dennotation 'incest' does not imply illegality. Do not alter the lead of this article to say it's 'sometimes' illegal or taboo, because this is implied already by the wording of the first paragraph.' If the relationship between two people is not illegal or unacceptable in that culture, then it is not incest.

Dex Stewart ( talk) 20:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)Īfter some thinking I decided that I'm probably right, so I decided to go and edit the sentence myself, but then saw this note in the source text: I really think the word 'illegal' should be removed, since incest is not universally illegal, nor is it actually defined as illegal, there's nothing in the word implying illegality. For all other uses, see Incest (disambiguation).' 'This article is about illegal sexual contact between family members. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC) Legitimus ( talk) 16:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC) Good additions. : Unknown parameter |month= ignored ( help) Origins of the Social Mind : Evolutionary Psychology and Child Development. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC) I've unearthed a few refs that may be useful: The lead!) I'm very reluctant to include more in the BCA section without better sources. I'd favour gutting the page and building from those two with judicious use of the news and pop culture links (right now JRR Tolkien is mentioned in the lead. There's two scholarly links, neither as inline citations. Legitimus ( talk) 14:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC) I'm torn on linking to the GSA page at all - it's all news stories. I will see if I can find some journal articles to assist.

For example, perhaps mention of the so-called Genetic sexual attraction and some mention about how consensual adult incestuous relationships are frequently between parties that meet for the first time as adults. I never really liked the pop news examples (they have that 'freak show' quality to them) Though I think we need some more subject-specific material in the BCA part. I've done a pretty extensive trim and rewrote some sections, what do others think? WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 14:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC) So far so good. The BCA section, more specifically the 'lead' 3-level heading, seemed rather suspect - popular sources, lots of unnecessary footnoting, and 'case studies' (more accurately, news stories).

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